Hello, I've been having this question in my head for a while now and I was hoping to Amateuer made by amateur if any of you could answer this question or tell me what you think about the subject. When can one say "I'm no longer an amateur"? Can one be a pro without doing photography for a living? The reason why ask these questions is because I always hear people talk about amateur photographers as people who aren't really there at the professional level.
But what is the professional level? Is it the equipment that makes you a pro or is it the skill? I have been taking pictures with an Amateuer made by amateur for about a year now. And in this year I've been reading about photography, about technique, I've been watching tutorials, online lessons, and I know that just like me there are people who do this same type of researching.
It doesn't make me feel above the rest that I do this. But just like me I know that there are a lot of people who already know the basics, who also have an understanding of composition, ISO, aperture, shutter, who use their camera on Manual Mode, who know how to use their Amateuer made by amateur properly.
I don't do this for a living at this time, but if I do in the future, then just like any other job I will do my best. But I'm not ready to leave my job for photography.
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When did you guys considers yourselves pros and no longer an amateur? Thank you in advance for the resposes.
A French word originating from the Latin word amator. Someone who does something for the love of it rather than necessity.
The term amateur should not indicate inferior quality. There's no reason why you can't be both. As rightly been indicated, this doesn't mean inferior quality of Amateuer made by amateur or more so. For example in my case, I have a uncle who is a wedding photographer, though I got the inspiration from him to get into photog, I have in some way become more technical with my tools than we is - and I still say, I'm an amateur, I'm Amateuer made by amateur photog for the love of it not for profit.
I think Ken Rockwell says it better, read: The terms "amateur" and "professional" have nothing to do with the quality of work. They speak to the reason one does photogprahy: Isn't it usually spelled armature around here?
It's someone who doesn't get paid for it but does it anyway for its own sake. It's always a Amateuer made by amateur line to draw, but the key thing is probably whether you can charge back your expenses to someone and whether you file income business statements for photography as photography.
In other words, does the IRS think you are a professional? It gets grayer in situations where photography may be an essential part of some other profession. JDMvWDec 18, After reading posts on PN for about two years I begin to understand what goes into Amateuer made by amateur a pro. I am nowhere near that knowledgeable.
I guess that makes me an amateur. Thank goodness I make a living drawing my pension. An amateur photographer is simply one who does not depend on photography for the daily bread - gods and heaven help those who do. Amateuer made by amateur the meaning of this word has depreciate over time; amateurish now means second rate, incompetent, etc.
The question is: When can...
There are many serious folks here, who do not consider themselves pros who are very close to being as good as or better than the average pro. I am involved with the amateur computer group of nj.
Amateur means you can please yourself. Pro means you need to have repeat business and therefore please others. This causes him have a breadth of experiential knowledge which someone who is not a pro is not likely to have. This is in NO way any insult to amateur photographers, who are doubtless pros at something else Thanks to everybody who responded. I Amateuer made by amateur to say, I completely agree with you Walter, in saying that a pro is he who makes a living out of this.
And it does bug me too that there's people who think of themselves as "pro" just because they got a camera that they believe that will do everything for them. But I believe that it's not the camera but the photographer that makes the difference. Without us the camera is just an object. One of the definitions is quite negative: My observation is that "Pro" and "Amateur" are being used in diferent levels with different meanings.
It does not mean the photographer is a paid professional. However, as Bob Cossar mentioned, a well-seasoned professional Bob apparently is Amateuer made by amateur is likely to have encountered many different situations Amateuer made by amateur can and better make good on the job presented to him, difficult or otherwise.
Having said that, some "pro's" work are not as impressive as some of the "amateur work" I have seen. My two cents, Mary.
Mary DooDec 18, An amateur is someone who spends lots of money and lots of time on Amateuer made by amateur. His reward is the satisfaction. A pro spends money and time and maybe gets satisfation but he gets some money back.
Not always enough to live on. A semi pro is an ameteur that can't really hack it in the real World. I think I now have a better understanding.
Translated from its Amateuer made by amateur origin to the English "lover of", the term "amateur" reflects a voluntary motivation to work as a result of personal passion for a particular activity. SpearheadDec 18, What kind of amateur or you? An amateur is someone who can drop a Amateuer made by amateur thousand on equipment without having to worry about how much additional sales that equipment will generate for his business.
Jeff The best of amateurs. True to the art. What I really should have said is spends time and money and gets no money back. Some of course do spend lots of money but it doesn't make them any more dedicated or better.
If you don't have to worry about all of that you're not likely to be a pro. I was once using a strong flash unit in a light, but increasing, rain.
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I handed the strobe to my "assistant". Here, hold this in position while I take the picture. I was the professional because I knew how to calculate exposure. He was the assistant because he cared less about electrical safety.
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An amateur would have been less dedicated, and, therefore, smart enough to wait until it had stopped raining. Amateuer made by amateur an amateur earns no living from photography and a pro earns a living from photography.
I'd go with the 'no meaningful income' Amateuer made by amateur. As mentioned you can certainly be quite good and still be an amateur, in fact I am sure there are plenty of amateurs who are better then pros out there, though I would say that is probably the exception rather then the rule. Just as we discuss many other photography terms, we are talking semantics. If you think you are a professional or think someone else is -- you are or they are to you.
How you define a term or accept other's definition of a term is what it means to you. Matthew and Mark, Amateuer made by amateur are excatly the kind of answers that I was hoping to get. Amateur doesn't look to profit. You are saying that words have no meaning except as the seer of them defines them. So truths are not ever absolute? Words have any meaning you want to put on them? I guess i Amateuer made by amateur at it like painting,an artist paints out of love and im sure would like to make money to support that love and a professional house painter while very skilled in his trade is more about making a living.
That said you can be both one to support the other or you can just be one. I Amateuer made by amateur drop the word amateur and use the word "hobbyist" in any post regarding persons who don't make a living on phptography but enjoy taking pictures.
These show a full range of skill Amateuer made by amateur from very advanced and knowledgeable to just starting out. In almost any type of pursuit, professional means it is what you make your living doing. Amateur means you don't get paid for it.
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If you do it as a sideline and sell a photo now and then, that would make you a semi-pro. Either way it has nothing to do with talent. IMO talent is something you have or don't Amateuer made by amateur. Skill is something you must aquire. I can't help but wonder what someone like Jim Thorpe's opinion might be. For those of you who don't remember: When I went to college I no idea what I wanted to study.
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